Tango Argentino > Cheapest private lessons in Europe?

Discussion in 'Tango Argentino' started by Andreas Winsnes, Sep 4, 2017.

  1. Vincenze

    Vincenze Member

    I thought you asked about places with the cheapest lessons and milongas full of pretty young ladies.

     
  2. Andreas Winsnes

    Andreas Winsnes New Member

    @Vincenze

    Age and beauty not relevant. Kiev certainly is an option though.
     
    Last edited: Sep 6, 2017
  3. TomTango

    TomTango Active Member

    I've never done this, but here's an idea how I might go about it:
    1. Google the milongas in the city you're visiting/might want to visit
    2. Search youtube or google for performances this year at that milonga. Example "Tango Nou Mitte Performance 2017" (for Berlin). Local teachers often perform at local milongas, often to solicit private lessons.
    3. Find the teachers whose dancing you like and email them. Say how many private lessons you'll be wanting to take and ask for a package deal. Most teachers offer reduced prices for multiple private lessons.
     
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  4. Vincenze

    Vincenze Member

  5. itwillhappen

    itwillhappen Active Member

    Maybe that there is not so much difference between unknown teachers on Oslo and unknown teachers in Kiev?
    Please, please - be so nice to report us about your experiences abroad and how it promoted you in your local dancing afterwards!
     
  6. Reuven Thetanguero

    Reuven Thetanguero Active Member

    One more thing to consider is whether in the city you select the people speak your language. You may end up in a place with very inexpensive rates, with a teacher who can not communicate with you...
     
  7. itwillhappen

    itwillhappen Active Member

    But talking is the minor part in communication, body language dominates. A tango teacher that does not teach a relevant part body-to-body is not suited for me.
    I pay 80 €/h for a teacher I understood fully from the first moment in every regard.
    Okay - as tango is a partner dance, I pay only half of that. (I did never make "invests" to get a "return" with prospective dance partners!)
    Okayokay - and I pay only half of hotel bill, travel expenses, all expenses... :)
     
  8. pascal

    pascal Active Member

    In Paris I bought a series of ten privates for €400 last year. One hour each, and a number of them actually lasted 1h30. Not a world-class teacher at all, but then in Paris we don't have any.
     
  9. itwillhappen

    itwillhappen Active Member

    When you've been a child and went to school - when it was really important - how many "world-class teachers" have been waiting there for you? :sorry:
     
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  10. pascal

    pascal Active Member

    Not sure how your question relates to the matter. Our school is free, not private, and not teaching tango.
     
  11. itwillhappen

    itwillhappen Active Member

    Okay, the implicit question was what a "world class teacher" is, whether you would realize if there is one in Paris, whether he/she would be so for other students too, and how useful and important such one is in general.

    FWIW, Chrisa Assis wrote in her blog about her great experience with one:
    A Tango private that costed 400$. WHAT THE {TANGO} HELL?
     
  12. jantango

    jantango Active Member

    "World class" tango professionals make their money at festivals doing exhibitions with prepared choreography. Even their class material is choreography for performance, not the social dance floor.

    Most people end up wanting to dance social tango with a variety of partners. Therefore, paying professionals who sell you something you don't want or need is a waste of money.

    Find those who promote social tango in their community by asking other social dancers.
     
  13. Mladenac

    Mladenac Well-Known Member

    good article Chrisa.

    But the title is a bit misleading (she included traveling costs in the price).
    And private with the world class teachers are usually cheaper
     
  14. Vincenze

    Vincenze Member

    That's not true.
    When professionals teach choreography, they indicate it clearly in the description.

    Professionals teach everything, especially, in a private lesson.
    Check some workshop videos by Tangobro.
    https://www.youtube.com/user/Tangobro/videos

    Thins class is about giros for beginners:


    Leandro with "Sequences for reduced spaces" - perfect for a crowded milonga.
     
  15. Mladenac

    Mladenac Well-Known Member

    Open/semi-open embrace isn't suitable for the crowded milonga.

    And in the both videos couples use too much space.
    They should restrain their space when doing the demo.
     
  16. Vincenze

    Vincenze Member

    It is a close embrace.
    They get closer or father away as they wish. They use openings for bigger steps or use tiny spots when they are closely surrounded.
     
  17. LadyLeader

    LadyLeader Active Member

    I would accept the step length here because it is a ws demonstration and needs to be clear even for the beginners. On other side I expect that an experienced dancer can vary the steps according to the density on the floor and still maintain the dynamics.

    2017 DF large frame.JPG


    But IMO this frame is not suitable for a crowded floor because the close-side elbows are too far from the bodies. As a leader you don't have ful control on that side and in a fast turn you can easily hit another couple. It would be really great if the dancers would be trained to take in elbows on both sides in difficult situations! If the leader is taking in the left arm and elbow he would take in the right elbow too. This would be done by the follower too so the couple is taking only slightly more than the shoulder width of space.

    2017 DF corean abrazo.JPG
     
  18. itwillhappen

    itwillhappen Active Member

    That's the point.
    A "world class teacher" would teach you what you need and in a way you can take it.
    And a way that is "world class" for you might not be well suited for someone else.
     
  19. itwillhappen

    itwillhappen Active Member

    You're just joking?!
    Yet "sequences for a crowded milonga" is somehow contradictory.
    Not to talk about his large sidesteps into the lane to the left or her knee-high circular boleos.
    In my opinion is this couple simply ripping of the rookies!
     
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  20. newbie

    newbie Well-Known Member

    I beg your pardon? Around 2:14 they're not even facing each other. They could label their workshop "Sequences for large, spacious places".
     
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