are salseros successful in the rest of life?

Discussion in 'Salsa' started by nycsalsero, Nov 26, 2006.

  1. nycsalsero

    nycsalsero Member

    I find it hard to believe that people who come out dancing 4 or more nights a week until very late at night have very demanding jobs!

    I'm addicted to salsa but I'm worried what the drawbacks to the level of intensity with which I'm doing it. It doesn't seem like there are many wealthy people who dance salsa, for example. Am I wrong?
  2. Sabor

    Sabor New Member

    depends what u think ''wealthy is'' and how much of it is much?

    other than beginners or intermediate salseros who are still relatively in the grip of salsa magic .. i do not see people with demanding jobs going out social dancing for more than twice a week .. i dont think they would even have the need to..

    past a certain plateau, i think that to keep things flavorfull and saucy one needs, and tends to focuss on quality over quantity .. kinda like getting more and more efficient with something u enjoy doing.. and so.. a balancing equation maybe reached..

    for me.. twice a week is perfect.. sometimes even only once.. it keeps me wanting .. and as a result produces much more sabor since dance for me is generated within my spirit.. and i luv me some sensual intensity
  3. GTO Bruin

    GTO Bruin Member

    Yeah, depends on what you consider "salseros" and what you consider "successful".
  4. nycsalsero

    nycsalsero Member

    I realize this of course, and I deliberately left it not so specific so we could talk about examples from the whole range of abilities and all types of success.

    I would be interested to hear about any examples of notable (in a non-salsa-related way) people who do salsa dancing on a regular basis.
  5. BugBear

    BugBear New Member

    One of the guys from my club is the mayor of one of the districts in my town. But I haven't seen him in a while. There was a time when he was at every party that I was and I'm still a student :)
  6. Vin

    Vin New Member

  7. GTO Bruin

    GTO Bruin Member

  8. GayleR

    GayleR New Member

    Hmmm, this is an interesting question. One of the things I really enjoy about the salsa scene here is that no one asks what I do, where I work, where I'm from, or where I live. People are just there to dance. I have always enjoyed this anonymity. I take classes three nights a week and go out social dancing 2-3 times a week. I consider myself to be successful, married 19 years, great son, I'm the president of an ad agency, but I don't flaunt it or talk about it, because I too am just there to dance.
  9. KiwiMambo

    KiwiMambo New Member

    I know a lot of people that dance that much and don't turn up at the clubs until 11pm, don't have good jobs. I am sure it can work though e.g. you could be a successful restaurant owner that works 11am until 9pm. That would allow you to dance late as many nights as you like.

    I cannot stay out late during the week nights because I have to be mentally alert for my job (Software Engineer). I've tried it before and when you start nodding off at work that is when you know you shouldn't be doing it. IMHO it is not good when dancing too much impacts your performance on the job. That said, I still spend 10 hours per week doing Salsa and African dance. Most of those hours are early evening or weekend.

    I do wish clubs would start Salsa earlier during the weeknights. Maybe I'm missing something but it seems like they would get more business.
  10. GayleR

    GayleR New Member

    We're lucky here in Toronto. There is a Saturday social every weekend from 3:30-9:30 p.m. and a Sunday social every other Sunday from 5:00 - 9:00 p.m. Fridays are usually late nights ending around 1:30ish if it's a good night. I used to go out Monday nights but found it was just too hard to get up the next morning and be alert.
  11. Vin

    Vin New Member

    In DC the weekday salsa starts and gets done early. I would often go out from 9-11 during the week, midnight if there was something special going on. That is not too late and you can still get in to work. Plus alot of people in DC have "flex shifts". I have heard that the early schedule was rarity though among salsa scenes.
  12. alemana

    alemana New Member

    man the late night thing is out of control here in NYC.

    luckily we do have the sunday socials, over by 9:30, and now there is a hopping Friday night scene - there didn't used to be, really, not on a regular basis.so if you don't want to stay out late on a school night, you now have two solid options.
  13. saludas

    saludas New Member

    One imagines that the definition of being successful is having control of your hours - e.g., a successful businessman can start work at a time convenient to him, not punch a clock.

    If being successful is merely holding a job, then, yes, late nights would pose a problem with a 9 to 5 er. That said, then I'd assume the folks who were out late were the most successful folks - they'd be the ones who held jobs that allowed them freedom, or had arranged their lives to embrace the things they loved to do (which, to ME, is THE definition of success...).
  14. noobster

    noobster New Member

    I don't have any idea what most of my salsa acquaintances do for a living. As GayleR mentioned, I kind of like it that way. But the ones I do know are all over the map, ranging from MIT-pedigreed PhD to DJ to waiter. Another thing I like about salsa is that it brings me in touch with a pretty wide variety of people. My real-life friends are mostly of similar socioeconomic and educational levels to me.
  15. noobster

    noobster New Member

    Well now, that depends. Neurosurgeons are in the hospital before daybreak, and most people would deem them reasonably successful.

    Arranging your life around salsa presumes that you found salsa before you figured out what to do with your life. Not true for me, and probably not for a lot of others as well.
  16. Catarina

    Catarina New Member

    How about this:
    People who are willing to dedicate themselves to dancing, putting money, energy, time, sacrificing other hobbies or atleast prioritizing salsa above other hobbies, likely have a sense of discipline in other areas of life including keeping their work life on track? Maybe people do not dance at the expense of career, but maybe have some transferrable skills from dancing to take into work life/social life, and vice versa?
    I don't think this theory will hold up under really close scrutiny, so don't pick it apart too much... :)

    Also, I am apparently moderately successful by some of your standards! I don't report to work until 11 most days...but I still need to be rested and mentally/emotionally present, so I still can't be up all night dancing every day.
  17. gte692h

    gte692h New Member

    As a student, I'd go out maybe 4 times a week, spend time practicing, dancing , mingling with my 'salsa friends', and somehow balanced a very demanding role in grad school. However, school gives you the flexibility in your schedule that work doesn't allow.

    Now, I'm working, its a very demanding job, a reputed company, I'm 'successful' (by society's standards of course, because I want to be a musician, not a corporate rat, lol) and the stress of my job has slowed my salsa down. Now I go out 2 times a week. Of course, life has intervened in the mean time - I'm studying music, I decided to cut down the salsa and work on preserving my friendships, etc.

    I don't go out with the same carefree attitude like before, as I have to be up and ready the next day - that's the biggest change. When I was in school, there was no tomorrow - just go out to the clubs and have a blast. Now, I have to think about things, plan out when I need to leave, etc. I still go out though, i'm still learning, having fun. I don't think its possible for the average person to stay out late, and go out with that manic intensity, and perform a morning job successfuly. But a 'softer' balance is more doable, and much more efficient
  18. squirrel

    squirrel New Member

    One can do anything as long as one knows what one wants.

    I teach almost every day, go out to social dance at least 2 times a week and still have a day job :), a good one (9 am to 5 pm).
  19. Shooshoo

    Shooshoo New Member

    Yes, me too. I really need my 8 hours of sleep.
  20. Shooshoo

    Shooshoo New Member

    And a lot of energy :) . I can pretty much be almost as active, if I get my 8 hours of sleep.

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